Winnie Mandela, the Queen of South Africa, abuses a Police Officer.

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By Wesman Todd Shaw

Police Officer.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that being a good, honest, and hard working police officer is one of the most difficult, and thankless jobs in the entire world. Not only is being a police officer typically an underpaid position, it is by and large a thankless position. Often, just like anyone else, Law Enforcement officers are frustrated by daily life, and especially their own personal professional lives, and sometimes, this leads officers into crime. When this happens, when officers of the law are more criminal than the criminals; it is a disgrace to everyone; and especially to the hard working, dedicated, sincere, and balanced officers of the law who do have great moral values, and no propensity towards un needed violence and subjugation, intimidation, and extortion.

I live in Texas, in the United States of America. I've never been to South Africa; I've never been South of Monterrey Mexico. I'm a poor spokesperson for Police in South Africa; but when I heard about the incident this month, the first month in the year of our Lord, 2011; I simply had to write something about it. I try to be fair. I try to be balanced. I never, ever watch Fox, and so I know that there is a possibility that I'm, if not close to my goals, that they are still achievable

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Winnie Mandela vs. South African Traffic Police.

I should clarify here that when I call Winnie Mandela the "Queen of South Africa," that that is purely sarcasm on my part.

Every living soul with a functional brain and a head that is not stuck into the sand, ostrich style, well knows that the nation of South Africa has been a hotbed of racial tension for probably it's entire existence. That can not be disputed; and every single time that a "white" police officer pulls over a black in South Africa, you know good and well what will be going on in the minds of those persons.

"Am I about to get killed by the police?"

It's so tough there that it almost makes one feel as though it's not comparable for me to compare the situation there to the one here, where "white" undercover cops, in Kaufman, Texas; drive beat up old cars down East First North looking to bust a dirt poor black man or boy for the crime of trying to make money selling crack cocaine. Never mind the fact that such young men in my hometown have virtually ZERO opportunity to do much of anything else, and that such police officers as those do NOTHING towards improving the lots of the lives of these men. "Serve and protect" my ass! The officers in my town that do that sort of gig serve only the Prison Industrial Complex, and Dick Cheney's poisonous social contributions to a crumbling American Society.

Sorry, I get lost sometimes. I'm not in Kaufman, Texas; I'm in South Africa.

So anyways, Winnie Mandela isn't "just" some poor black South African, you know; she used to have a husband named Nelson, and if you do not know about Nelson Mandela, you're probably a fine redneck sort of person, and you're confused by these big names; but I do sometimes write about shotguns, and I can refer you with confidence towards those fine articles.

Forgive the ramble here, you get no apologies, but I have to side with Winnie Mandela concerning being chased by an unmarked police car. I tell you the truth, if someone is chasing me in an unmarked car; then there's no way for me to know that it is a Law Enforcement officer, and it's easy to think that someone that isn't a police officer is out to get you, shoot at that person in defence, and now you're a super felon. I also, in this specific instance, totally AGREE WITH the actions of that Law Enforcement Officer, as the vehicle carrying Winnie Mandela was travelling WAY TOO DAMN FAST for the safety of the other motorist and passengers on that, or any highway not in Germany.

http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/YourStory/How-wrong-was-Winnie-20110113

http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/General_News/Winnie-abuses-speed-cops-20110112

What Happened Next? It Got Really Ugly.

"Who the fuck do you think you are,"

She'd repeatedly yelled at him and his colleagues, as reported by Warrant Officer Jannie Odendaal on Tuesday.

"I didn't recognise her since she had white powder all over her face and looked much older than when I'd last seen her."

Odendaal, a member of the Gauteng police flying squad, said the occupants of the vehicle refused to identify themselves, and this is illegal in America; you CAN NOT NOT identify yourself. Me? I take a lot of pride in who and what I am, I'll proudly tell any officer who I am, what kind of person or attitude prevents someone from telling a Law Enforcement officer who they are? Especially, one must wonder why they wouldn't tell the police officer who they were considering the facts that they'd been clearly breaking the law, and causing a great deal of danger to everyone on the highway. It's not like a police officer can just shoot the wife of Nelson Mandela, even had they wanted to. Clearly, there must have been some shame involved here, I tell you, if I'm not owning up to being the only single Wesman Todd Shaw in this world, then I damn sure must be severely ashamed of what I've just been busted for doing. That's never happened to me before, and Lord willing, it never will.

"I've been working my arse off in the police for 19 years and now I have to apologise to her for doing my job," said Odendaal.

Again, I have to say here, I often side with blacks, but not this time, I side with the police, the man was doing his job, and political circumstances are what the source of his problems here are, it's not that he wasn't protecting and serving, he damn sure was serving and protecting the citizens of South Africa as the car carrying Winnie Mandela was travelling over 90 miles per hour!


"I don't know if I still belong in the police if this is the way they treat me.

"It looks like they're accepting Ms Madikizela-Mandela's word above my own,"
said Odendaal

I can not verify it at this time, but I will find out what all has happened, I'm told that this officer has BEEN SUSPENDED FROM HIS JOB BECAUSE HE WAS DOING HIS JOB. If so, then this is an abomination in the nation of South Africa. We need good law enforcement officers in the United States of America, and especially in my hometown, Kaufman, Texas. Let's see to it that this police officer get's his job back, or otherwise, gets another police job where he can serve and protect with the pride and honour that is due him.

~WTS~

Comments

MarianG 16 months ago

Sounds a bit like she has a diva attitude going on there--strange and sad in consideration to who her husband was and what he stood for...

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 16 months ago

Exactly, Marian, thank you; I should have even used that terminology! That summed it up perfectly!

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christopheranton Level 7 Commenter 16 months ago

She is the Ex wife of nelson Mandela, and she does have a bit of a dodgy history, including alledgedly presiding at "Necklace parties" of her political opponents.

Necklacing, for those not acquainted with the practice. involves placing a car tyre round the neck of the victim, and then setting it on fire. Not many people survive having it done to them.

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 16 months ago

Christopher Anton, HOLY FUCKING SHIT! I don't have to ask, I KNOW that you are serious. This bothers me very, very much.

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Claire Evans Level 2 Commenter 16 months ago

Hey, Todd, I'm pleased you are bringing this topic to light. I just have to make one correction here. The cop has been suspended not fired at the moment. When I get more information, I'll update you. Sorry that I provided the incorrect information.

Odendaal is now being charged for pointing a firearm at them.

Here is the Facebook support page you asked for:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Support-Jannie-Od

Apart from the speeding, Winnie was also pulled over because Odendaal's tracker advised him that her car was reported to be stolen.

More information:

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/01/

My mom and dad went to see Whitney Houston in concert back in 1994. She sang terrible that evening and the crowd were getting annoyed. Finally she said, "Winnie is the queen of South Africa." The crowd went dead silent. She hastily said, "Oh, maybe I've come to the wrong place!"

Fail.

And good news for you, Todd. There is going to be an opera made of Winnie. Book your ticket now!

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 16 months ago

LOL!

Corrections made, and I added a link to the facebook support page, but it didn't come in all pretty like it should have.

LOL! Yeah, don't look for me at the Show, Claire, I might not be able to make that one :-;

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Micky Dee Level 4 Commenter 16 months ago

I agree with most said here Todd. The poor blacks selling crack or whatever on the streets have no other lives. There is no infrastructure suitable for another occupation. They will not become greeters at Wal-Mart. The drugs they hock are brought in by panes by white rich people and the CIA, etc. America needs a wake-up call, but so does the world.

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 16 months ago

Thanks, Micky Dee! Yeah, in my town, there are lots of them, they have nothing, and they sometimes didn't learn a single useful thing in the public schools. . . .so how are they going to make anything of themselves?

Sure, selling crack won't get them anywhere, but they can't sit around and do nothing at all either. There is no program in the city(old money, rich "whites") provided to help them, me, or anyone else do anything. A job at McDonalds or Taco Bell is about the only place to start, and there's lots of competition for those jobs too.

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tonymac04 16 months ago

I think that it is wise to keep calm heads and do some clear thinking about this issue, which is more complex than you would have us believe.

One of the pertinent facts is that the two police officers, one of whom is black, by the way, have not been suspended, they have been "temporarily re-assigned" to other jobs within the force.

The National Prosecuting Authority is looking into the case with a view to possible criminal prosecutions and until they have completed their investigations we do not have the full story.

It does seem that Odendaal made some racial comments to Winnie Mandela's driver, Jacob Monare, who wanted to explain why he had been driving so fast, a fact he was not trying to deny.

So before jumping on any bandwagons about Ms Mandela let's await the outcome of the enquiry. I think it will reveal more than has come out so far.

For a relatively calm assessment of the incident I recommend the article by Unathi Kondile to which you have provided the link in your Hub. It is an excellent analysis of the incident as far as we know the facts of the matter now.

BTW I am no fan of Ms Mandela, just of fair play and an end to racism.

Thanks for sharing.

Love and peace

Tony

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 16 months ago

Thanks Tony, and it's true that I know next to nothing about the politics in your country. . . .it'll be interesting to see what the outcome is.

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tugbo200-5 15 months ago

I'll not take sides,but this happens all over,

Anyone connected to a political name or money normally always get the upper hand.

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 15 months ago

Yeah, I've about decided to stay out of South African Politics, maybe my perspective isn't the most relevant one.

Thanks tugbo!

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MetalLemon 15 months ago

I have lived in South Africa most of my life, Ma Winnie has been up on murder (Stompie Moeketsi), racketeering and fraud charges more times than I can remember.

She is basically an elitist pig feeding at the trough of the South African tax payer.

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 15 months ago

Hey, thank you MetalLemon!!! I've never been down around your way, and maybe I should stay out of S.A. politics (I'd thought) but it seems like though some feel otherwise, my first thoughts upon the situation reverberate with at least some of the residents!

@tonymac 13 months ago

First of all, Wesman Todd Shaw, we do not mind at all... in fact, WE REALLY APPRECIATE your caring :) Maybe the following info can assist in providing you with starting points for further hubs.

Well, Tony, I can assure you that I read extensively on the matter and since I live in SA, I'd be a bit more informed than you are. You stated:

"One of the pertinent facts is that the two police officers, one of whom is black, by the way, have not been suspended, they have been "temporarily re-assigned" to other jobs within the force.

The National Prosecuting Authority is looking into the case with a view to possible criminal prosecutions and until they have completed their investigations we do not have the full story.

It does seem that Odendaal made some racial comments to Winnie Mandela's driver, Jacob Monare, who wanted to explain why he had been driving so fast, a fact he was not trying to deny."

The truth in short: The white officer made no racist comments, was backed up by his black partner and got fired. If he has a black partner (which you rely on for dear life), how on earth do you see the white guy making racist comments? That is the typical tired old ANC modus operandi. They love to lie. Here's a tip: don't get your news from the ANC, SACP or PAC home pages (or the NY Times, Mother Jones etc).

This past week I read a report of how blacks went to a police station with an injured guy, claiming that white community policing forum (CPF) members assaulted him. They made a call to the CPF and the first eager CPF member to show up at the station was fingered. However, it turns out that according to medical personnel at the hospital he was taken to pointed out that his injuries are consistent with a hit-and-run. The poor naive, helpful guy was arrested without any evidence being examined and didn't even get bail. The innocent CPF members now get death threats.

http://praag.co.za/nuus-magazine-402/afrikaanse-nu

Another favorite is: "the evil racist white man raped the poor innocent black guy" - don't know how that works, if you're such a racist, that's the last thing you'd do!?

In this regard, see also: The truth surfaces about the ANC and Media Psy-ops against White South Africans

http://mspoliticalcommentary.blogspot.com/2011/04/

There was another case last year when they had huge headlines about how the police foiled a so-called right-wing terror plot to cause a "bloodbath" during the Soccer World Cup with nation-wide raids and lots of arms caches being found. It turned out the TRUTH WAS that a couple young guys got drunk and because they were upset over the "kill the boer/white/farmer" hate chants and decided to take a leak on some or other dead ANC ambassador's grave. Granted, they shouldn't have done that, but come on... this just goes to show how they lie and basically rape the truth.

Another example of the ANC's sterling ethics:

They have been telling thousands of people on the campaign trail: "Jesus would vote ANC", "a vote against the ANC is a vote for the devil", "Mandela is sick and if you don't vote ANC, he won't get better", "if you don't vote for the ANC, you won't have food or jobs", "you can't run and you cannot hide, the ANC is like your parents" and last but not least: "if you don't vote ANC, your ancestor's ghosts will track you down and make you sick".

http://mspoliticalcommentary.blogspot.com/2011/04/

ANC cops out of control - killing innocent black protestors

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011_04_

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiZ-ehzZRCMkjkdjd

There is also currently a court case regarding the "kill the boer" hate chant - the family of the complainant's legal counsel have been receiving death threats and there were attemtps to run his daughter off the road - basically the same m.o. Mugabe's henchmen attempted to use to assassinate Tsvangirai (opposition); they succeeded in killing his wife and sending him to hospital for a long time.

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/

Majority say "kill the boer" is hate speech, but ANC loudly defends their right to it, saying they will defend it all the way to the highest courts (and they're doing so right now):

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/ (2010-2011)

"kill the boer" is a slogan referring to all whites, but literally means "farmer" in Dutch & Afrikaans. It was found written in blood on the house of farm-murder victims. Well, actually murder victim is a euphemism. The 2 women had their faces bashed in, their uterus and other organs carved out with broken beer bottles, their breasts and pieces of flesh cut off their bodies, and were stabbed with scissors. But eventually drowned in their own blood.

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/06/

Of course when you as an elderly victim survive long enough to get to the hospital after being beaten up and tortured with burning plastic, you are likely to die a horrible death from abuse at the hands of hospice personnel:

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/

Then there's also "one bullet, one (white) baby"

"Nearly 8 months after coining this genocidal song, little Boer girl Wilmien Potgieter, 2, was executed by one of the black males standing in the dock above – one of these males had picked up the baby by her red hair and fired a bullet through her skull."

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/03/

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/03/

But it seems your beloved ANC will be facing genocide charges in The Hague - the matter is being investigated:

http://praag.co.uk/news/southern-africa/519-twelve (2010)

http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/06/09/male (2010)

SA farmer petitions UN over genocide of Afrikaners

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/08/ (2011)

UN Genocide-Prevention advisor to visit SA?

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011_04_ (2011)

Probe ANC for genocide: the hague petition

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/ (2011)

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) also found that other parties such as the PAC were guilty of crimes against humanity, for example for the St James Church Massacre when they attacked and killed 22 people who were attending a Sunday morning service in church using hand-grenades and machine guns. They didn't get a chance to use the petrol bombs though, because one of the church-goers was armed and fired back with a .38 special, hitting one of the cowardly attackers who ran away.

The Killing Fields of Post-Apartheid South Africa - A Black African Journalist Praises Apartheid with Incredible Evidence

http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=7575

Did Apartheid kill Millions of Blacks?

http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=2931

Uncensored: ANC's Mbokodo Quatro Torture Camps...

http://mbokodo-quatro-uncensored.co.nr/

Then there's that wonderful ANC invention: Necklacing murders

http://hubpages.com/hub/Winnie-Mandela-the-Necklac

‘Time to open Pandora’s Apartheid Box...’ - Mike Smith Political Commentary

http://why-we-are-white-refugees.blogspot.com/2010

I hope Jennifer Hudson liked playing and glorifying Winnie Mandela in that movie... I won't be listening to her music anymore. Nelson Mandela (who suggested that traitors' noses should be cut off aside from necklacing) divorced her because she was a lying cheating wh*re, but by his own admission, he wasn't very faithful himself. He included these details in his autobiography, but Archbishop Desmond Tutu th

@tonymac 13 months ago

PS. Regarding this part of what I said above:

"There was another case last year when they had huge headlines about how the police foiled a so-called right-wing terror plot to cause a "bloodbath" during the Soccer World Cup with nation-wide raids and lots of arms caches being found. It turned out the TRUTH WAS that a couple young guys got drunk and because they were upset over the "kill the boer/white/farmer" hate chants and decided to take a leak on some or other dead ANC ambassador's grave. Granted, they shouldn't have done that, but come on... this just goes to show how they lie and basically rape the truth."

The kids were severely tortured. They are suffering from post traumatic stress and one went blind. When it all got out, the whole thing went quiet.

No doubt you seem to have good intentions, but you are a tad naive, and entirely too willing to believe the worst about whites, especially those from SA.

The ANC, Communist Party and PAC never wanted 'freedom' and 'equality'... they only wanted to get into power so they can enrich themselves and their friends. There is a huge scandal involving Aurora mine where Khulubuse Zuma (president's son/cousin) and Zodwa Mandela (Mandela's grandson) enriched themselves, living ultra-luxurious lives while the mine's power had been cut due to non-payment of bills and workers hadn't been paid in probably about a year now, some have committed suicide. Strangely enough, they made a 1 million Rand donation to the ANC the other day.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to read George Orwell's Animal Farm (the pigs just became the new farmers) and there's also an interesting article about the Cloward-Piven strategy of manufactured crisis ("making the country ungovernable" as the ANC would say, or causing a financial crisis)

"The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obam

They have some other articles about it too; you can just search for "american thinker cloward piven" to find them.

This hub will definitely help to open people's eyes, so thank you once again for this Wesman.

Oooops... 13 months ago

Oops... correction. The tortured kid went deaf (not blind).

It seems that previous comment I refer to didn't post. Not sure if it was too long or something, so I'll split it up...

Coming up:

@tonymac (part 1) 13 months ago

First of all, Wesman Todd Shaw, we do not mind at all... in fact, WE REALLY APPRECIATE your caring :) Maybe the following info can assist in providing you with starting points for further hubs.

Well, Tony, I can assure you that I read extensively on the matter and since I live in SA, I'd be a bit more informed than you are. You stated:

"One of the pertinent facts is that the two police officers, one of whom is black, by the way, have not been suspended, they have been "temporarily re-assigned" to other jobs within the force.

The National Prosecuting Authority is looking into the case with a view to possible criminal prosecutions and until they have completed their investigations we do not have the full story.

It does seem that Odendaal made some racial comments to Winnie Mandela's driver, Jacob Monare, who wanted to explain why he had been driving so fast, a fact he was not trying to deny."

The truth in short: The white officer made no racist comments, was backed up by his black partner and got fired. If he has a black partner (which you rely on for dear life), how on earth do you see the white guy making racist comments? That is the typical tired old ANC modus operandi. They love to lie. Here's a tip: don't get your news from the ANC, SACP or PAC home pages (or the NY Times, Mother Jones etc).

This past week I read a report of how blacks went to a police station with an injured guy, claiming that white community policing forum (CPF) members assaulted him. They made a call to the CPF and the first eager CPF member to show up at the station was fingered. However, it turns out that according to medical personnel at the hospital he was taken to pointed out that his injuries are consistent with a hit-and-run. The poor naive, helpful guy was arrested without any evidence being examined and didn't even get bail. The innocent CPF members now get death threats.

http://praag.co.za/nuus-magazine-402/afrikaanse-nu

Another favorite is: "the evil racist white man raped the poor innocent black guy" - don't know how that works, if you're such a racist, that's the last thing you'd do!?

In this regard, see also: The truth surfaces about the ANC and Media Psy-ops against White South Africans

http://mspoliticalcommentary.blogspot.com/2011/04/

There was another case last year when they had huge headlines about how the police foiled a so-called right-wing terror plot to cause a "bloodbath" during the Soccer World Cup with nation-wide raids and lots of arms caches being found. It turned out the TRUTH WAS that a couple young guys got drunk and because they were upset over the "kill the boer/white/farmer" hate chants and decided to take a leak on some or other dead ANC ambassador's grave. Granted, they shouldn't have done that, but come on... this just goes to show how they lie and basically rape the truth.

Another example of the ANC's sterling ethics:

They have been telling thousands of people on the campaign trail: "Jesus would vote ANC", "a vote against the ANC is a vote for the devil", "Mandela is sick and if you don't vote ANC, he won't get better", "if you don't vote for the ANC, you won't have food or jobs", "you can't run and you cannot hide, the ANC is like your parents" and last but not least: "if you don't vote ANC, your ancestor's ghosts will track you down and make you sick".

http://mspoliticalcommentary.blogspot.com/2011/04/

ANC cops out of control - killing innocent black protestors

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011_04_

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiZ-ehzZRCMkjkdjd

@tonymac (part 2) 13 months ago

There is also currently a court case regarding the "kill the boer" hate chant - the family of the complainant's legal counsel have been receiving death threats and there were attemtps to run his daughter off the road - basically the same m.o. Mugabe's henchmen attempted to use to assassinate Tsvangirai (opposition); they succeeded in killing his wife and sending him to hospital for a long time.

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/

Majority say "kill the boer" is hate speech, but ANC loudly defends their right to it, saying they will defend it all the way to the highest courts (and they're doing so right now):

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/ (2010-2011)

"kill the boer" is a slogan referring to all whites, but literally means "farmer" in Dutch & Afrikaans. It was found written in blood on the house of farm-murder victims. Well, actually murder victim is a euphemism. The 2 women had their faces bashed in, their uterus and other organs carved out with broken beer bottles, their breasts and pieces of flesh cut off their bodies, and were stabbed with scissors. But eventually drowned in their own blood.

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/06/

Of course when you as an elderly victim survive long enough to get to the hospital after being beaten up and tortured with burning plastic, you are likely to die a horrible death from abuse at the hands of hospice personnel:

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/

Then there's also "one bullet, one (white) baby"

"Nearly 8 months after coining this genocidal song, little Boer girl Wilmien Potgieter, 2, was executed by one of the black males standing in the dock above – one of these males had picked up the baby by her red hair and fired a bullet through her skull."

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/03/

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/03/

But it seems your beloved ANC will be facing genocide charges in The Hague - the matter is being investigated:

http://praag.co.uk/news/southern-africa/519-twelve (2010)

http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/06/09/male (2010)

SA farmer petitions UN over genocide of Afrikaners

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/08/ (2011)

UN Genocide-Prevention advisor to visit SA?

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011_04_ (2011)

Probe ANC for genocide: the hague petition

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/ (2011)

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) also found that other parties such as the PAC were guilty of crimes against humanity, for example for the St James Church Massacre when they attacked and killed 22 people who were attending a Sunday morning service in church using hand-grenades and machine guns. They didn't get a chance to use the petrol bombs though, because one of the church-goers was armed and fired back with a .38 special, hitting one of the cowardly attackers who ran away.

The Killing Fields of Post-Apartheid South Africa - A Black African Journalist Praises Apartheid with Incredible Evidence

http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=7575

Did Apartheid kill Millions of Blacks?

http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=2931

Uncensored: ANC's Mbokodo Quatro Torture Camps...

http://mbokodo-quatro-uncensored.co.nr/

Then there's that wonderful ANC invention: Necklacing murders

http://hubpages.com/hub/Winnie-Mandela-the-Necklac

‘Time to open Pandora’s Apartheid Box...’ - Mike Smith Political Commentary

http://why-we-are-white-refugees.blogspot.com/2010

I hope Jennifer Hudson liked playing and glorifying Winnie Mandela in that movie... I won't be listening to her music anymore. Nelson Mandela (who suggested that traitors' noses should be cut off aside from necklacing) divorced her because she was a lying cheating wh*re, but by his own admission, he wasn't very faithful himself. He included these details in his autobiography, but Archbishop Desmond Tutu threw a spanner in the works and made sure those parts didn't get published.

At least Mandela didn't cling to power like Mugabe, Amin etc. and was honest about his flaws, despite the fact that they get covered up. The ANC only gave Winnie 5 years for the kidnapping, torture and murder of Stompie, but she appealed and got a jail out of free card.

Then there's Pres. Zuma's financial advisor (read parther in fraud) who was found guilty and sent to jail. He got out on medical parole because he started suffering from a 'terminal stress related illness' and recovered very quickly after that. Zuma wasn't tried, because "a trial would interfere with his presidential duties"!

So all is not as it may seem to you. In fact, I don't know whether to have a temper tantrum, cry, laugh hysterically or just simply give up entirely.

Thanks again for your interest, Wesman. Take care.

@tonymac (part 2) 13 months ago

There is also currently a court case regarding the "kill the boer" hate chant - the family of the complainant's legal counsel have been receiving death threats and there were attemtps to run his daughter off the road - basically the same m.o. Mugabe's henchmen attempted to use to assassinate Tsvangirai (opposition); they succeeded in killing his wife and sending him to hospital for a long time.

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/

Majority say "kill the boer" is hate speech, but ANC loudly defends their right to it, saying they will defend it all the way to the highest courts (and they're doing so right now):

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/ (2010-2011)

"kill the boer" is a slogan referring to all whites, but literally means "farmer" in Dutch & Afrikaans. It was found written in blood on the house of farm-murder victims. Well, actually murder victim is a euphemism. The 2 women had their faces bashed in, their uterus and other organs carved out with broken beer bottles, their breasts and pieces of flesh cut off their bodies, and were stabbed with scissors. But eventually drowned in their own blood.

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/06/

Of course when you as an elderly victim survive long enough to get to the hospital after being beaten up and tortured with burning plastic, you are likely to die a horrible death from abuse at the hands of hospice personnel:

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/

Then there's also "one bullet, one (white) baby"

"Nearly 8 months after coining this genocidal song, little Boer girl Wilmien Potgieter, 2, was executed by one of the black males standing in the dock above – one of these males had picked up the baby by her red hair and fired a bullet through her skull."

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/03/

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/03/

But it seems your beloved ANC will be facing genocide charges in The Hague - the matter is being investigated:

http://praag.co.uk/news/southern-africa/519-twelve (2010)

http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/06/09/male (2010)

SA farmer petitions UN over genocide of Afrikaners

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/08/ (2011)

UN Genocide-Prevention advisor to visit SA?

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011_04_ (2011)

Probe ANC for genocide: the hague petition

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/ (2011)

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) also found that other parties such as the PAC were guilty of crimes against humanity, for example for the St James Church Massacre when they attacked and killed 22 people who were attending a Sunday morning service in church using hand-grenades and machine guns. They didn't get a chance to use the petrol bombs though, because one of the church-goers was armed and fired back with a .38 special, hitting one of the cowardly attackers who ran away.

The Killing Fields of Post-Apartheid South Africa - A Black African Journalist Praises Apartheid with Incredible Evidence

http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=7575

Did Apartheid kill Millions of Blacks?

http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=2931

Uncensored: ANC's Mbokodo Quatro Torture Camps...

http://mbokodo-quatro-uncensored.co.nr/

Then there's that wonderful ANC invention: Necklacing murders

http://hubpages.com/hub/Winnie-Mandela-the-Necklac

‘Time to open Pandora’s Apartheid Box...’ - Mike Smith Political Commentary

http://why-we-are-white-refugees.blogspot.com/2010

I hope Jennifer Hudson liked playing and glorifying Winnie Mandela in that movie... I won't be listening to her music anymore. Nelson Mandela (who suggested that traitors' noses should be cut off aside from necklacing) divorced her because she was a lying cheating wh*re, but by his own admission, he wasn't very faithful himself. He included these details in his autobiography, but Archbishop Desmond Tutu threw a spanner in the works and made sure those parts didn't get published.

At least Mandela didn't cling to power like Mugabe, Amin etc. and was honest about his flaws, despite the fact that they get covered up. The ANC only gave Winnie 5 years for the kidnapping, torture and murder of Stompie, but she appealed and got a jail out of free card.

Then there's Pres. Zuma's financial advisor (read parther in fraud) who was found guilty and sent to jail. He got out on medical parole because he started suffering from a 'terminal stress related illness' and recovered very quickly after that. Zuma wasn't tried, because "a trial would interfere with his presidential duties"!

So all is not as it may seem to you. In fact, I don't know whether to have a temper tantrum, cry, laugh hysterically or just simply give up entirely.

Thanks again for your interest, Wesman. Take care.

@tonymac (part 3) 13 months ago

OK turns out I had to split it up a bit more...

The Killing Fields of Post-Apartheid South Africa - A Black African Journalist Praises Apartheid with Incredible Evidence

http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=7575

Did Apartheid kill Millions of Blacks?

http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=2931

Uncensored: ANC's Mbokodo Quatro Torture Camps...

http://mbokodo-quatro-uncensored.co.nr/

Then there's that wonderful ANC invention: Necklacing murders

http://hubpages.com/hub/Winnie-Mandela-the-Necklac

‘Time to open Pandora’s Apartheid Box...’ - Mike Smith Political Commentary

http://why-we-are-white-refugees.blogspot.com/2010

I hope Jennifer Hudson liked playing and glorifying Winnie Mandela in that movie... I won't be listening to her music anymore. Nelson Mandela (who suggested that traitors' noses should be cut off aside from necklacing) divorced her because she was a lying cheating wh*re, but by his own admission, he wasn't very faithful himself. He included these details in his autobiography, but Archbishop Desmond Tutu threw a spanner in the works and made sure those parts didn't get published.

At least Mandela didn't cling to power like Mugabe, Amin etc. and was honest about his flaws, despite the fact that they get covered up. The ANC only gave Winnie 5 years for the kidnapping, torture and murder of Stompie, but she appealed and got a jail out of free card.

Then there's Pres. Zuma's financial advisor (read parther in fraud) who was found guilty and sent to jail. He got out on medical parole because he started suffering from a 'terminal stress related illness' and recovered very quickly after that. Zuma wasn't tried, because "a trial would interfere with his presidential duties"!

So all is not as it may seem to you. In fact, I don't know whether to have a temper tantrum, cry, laugh hysterically or just simply give up entirely.

Thanks again for your interest, Wesman. Take care.

@tonymac (part 2) 13 months ago

OK... so maybe it was the links in Part 2 that caused it not to work. I took out the http part in some of them and you may have to now copy & paste them into your browser's address bar.

There is also currently a court case regarding the "kill the boer" hate chant - the family of the complainant's legal counsel have been receiving death threats and there were attemtps to run his daughter off the road - basically the same m.o. Mugabe's henchmen attempted to use to assassinate Tsvangirai (opposition); they succeeded in killing his wife and sending him to hospital for a long time.

censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/kill-boer-malema-trial-advocate-family.html

Majority say "kill the boer" is hate speech, but ANC loudly defends their right to it, saying they will defend it all the way to the highest courts (and they're doing so right now):

censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/majority-kill-boer-chant-is-hatespeech.html (2010-2011)

"kill the boer" is a slogan referring to all whites, but literally means "farmer" in Dutch & Afrikaans. It was found written in blood on the house of farm-murder victims. Well, actually murder victim is a euphemism. The 2 women had their faces bashed in, their uterus and other organs carved out with broken beer bottles, their breasts and pieces of flesh cut off their bodies, and were stabbed with scissors. But eventually drowned in their own blood.

censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/06/boer-womens-cruel-torture-murders.html

Of course when you as an elderly victim survive long enough to get to the hospital after being beaten up and tortured with burning plastic, you are likely to die a horrible death from abuse at the hands of hospice personnel:

censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/tortured-afrikaner-dies-of-neglect-in.html

Then there's also "one bullet, one (white) baby"

"Nearly 8 months after coining this genocidal song, little Boer girl Wilmien Potgieter, 2, was executed by one of the black males standing in the dock above – one of these males had picked up the baby by her red hair and fired a bullet through her skull."

censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/03/anc-shoot-boer-slogan-protests.html

More info at:

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/03/

But it seems your beloved ANC will be facing genocide charges in The Hague - the matter is being investigated:

http://praag.co.uk/news/southern-africa/519-twelve (2010)

http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/06/09/male (2010)

SA farmer petitions UN over genocide of Afrikaners

censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/08/sa-farmer-petitions-un-over-genocide-of.html (2011)

UN Genocide-Prevention advisor to visit SA?

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011_04_ (2011)

Probe ANC for genocide: the hague petition

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2011/04/ (2011)

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) also found that other parties such as the PAC were guilty of crimes against humanity, for example for the St James Church Massacre when they attacked and killed 22 people who were attending a Sunday morning service in church using hand-grenades and machine guns. They didn't get a chance to use the petrol bombs though, because one of the church-goers was armed and fired back with a .38 special, hitting one of the cowardly attackers who ran away.

@tonymac (part 2) 13 months ago

OK... so maybe it was the links in Part 2 that caused it not to work. I took out the dots and http part in some of them and you may have to now copy & paste them into your browser's address bar.

There is also currently a court case regarding the "kill the boer" hate chant - the family of the complainant's legal counsel have been receiving death threats and there were attemtps to run his daughter off the road - basically the same m.o. Mugabe's henchmen attempted to use to assassinate Tsvangirai (opposition); they succeeded in killing his wife and sending him to hospital for a long time.

censorbugbear-reports [dot] blogspot [dot] com/2011/04/kill-boer-malema-trial-advocate-family.html

Majority say "kill the boer" is hate speech, but ANC loudly defends their right to it, saying they will defend it all the way to the highest courts (and they're doing so right now):

censorbugbear-reports [dot] blogspot [dot] com/2011/04/majority-kill-boer-chant-is-hatespeech.html (2010-2011)

"kill the boer" is a slogan referring to all whites, but literally means "farmer" in Dutch & Afrikaans. It was found written in blood on the house of farm-murder victims. Well, actually murder victim is a euphemism. The 2 women had their faces bashed in, their uterus and other organs carved out with broken beer bottles, their breasts and pieces of flesh cut off their bodies, and were stabbed with scissors. But eventually drowned in their own blood.

censorbugbear-reports [dot] blogspot [dot] com/2010/06/boer-womens-cruel-torture-murders.html

Of course when you as an elderly victim survive long enough to get to the hospital after being beaten up and tortured with burning plastic, you are likely to die a horrible death from abuse at the hands of hospice personnel:

censorbugbear-reports [dot] blogspot [dot] com/2011/04/tortured-afrikaner-dies-of-neglect-in.html

Then there's also "one bullet, one (white) baby"

"Nearly 8 months after coining this genocidal song, little Boer girl Wilmien Potgieter, 2, was executed by one of the black males standing in the dock above – one of these males had picked up the baby by her red hair and fired a bullet through her skull."

censorbugbear-reports [dot] blogspot [dot] com/2011/03/anc-shoot-boer-slogan-protests.html

More info at:

censorbugbear-reports [dot] blogspot [dot] com/2011/03/court-dates-for-farm-murder-trials.html

But it seems your beloved ANC will be facing genocide charges in The Hague - the matter is being investigated:

http://praag.co.uk/news/southern-africa/519-twelve (2010)

http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/06/09/male (2010)

SA farmer petitions UN over genocide of Afrikaners

censorbugbear-reports [dot] blogspot [dot] com/2010/08/sa-farmer-petitions-un-over-genocide-of.html (2011)

UN Genocide-Prevention advisor to visit SA?

censorbugbear-reports [dot] blogspot [dot] com/2011_04_15_archive.html (2011)

Probe ANC for genocide: the hague petition

censorbugbear-reports [dot] blogspot [dot] com/2011/04/afrikaner-independence-discussed-in.html (2011)

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) also found that other parties such as the PAC were guilty of crimes against humanity, for example for the St James Church Massacre when they attacked and killed 22 people who were attending a Sunday morning service in church using hand-grenades and machine guns. They didn't get a chance to use the petrol bombs though, because one of the church-goers was armed and fired back with a .38 special, hitting one of the cowardly attackers who ran away.

The ANC is in bigger trouble: 13 months ago

But it seems the wonderful ANC will be facing genocide charges in The Hague - the matter is being investigated:

http://praag.co.uk/news/southern-africa/519-twelve (2010)

http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/06/09/male (2010)

SA farmer petitions UN over genocide of Afrikaners

censorbugbear-reports [dot] blogspot [dot] com/2010/08/sa-farmer-petitions-un-over-genocide-of.html (2011)

UN Genocide-Prevention advisor to visit SA?

censorbugbear-reports [dot] blogspot [dot] com/2011_04_15_archive.html (2011)

Probe ANC for genocide: the hague petition

censorbugbear-reports [dot] blogspot [dot] com/2011/04/afrikaner-independence-discussed-in.html (2011)

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) also found that other parties such as the PAC were guilty of crimes against humanity, for example for the St James Church Massacre when they attacked and killed 22 people who were attending a Sunday morning service in church using hand-grenades and machine guns. They didn't get a chance to use the petrol bombs though, because one of the church-goers was armed and fired back with a .38 special, hitting one of the cowardly attackers who ran away.

fed up 13 months ago

Regarding the "Winnie Mandela, the Queen of South Africa, abuses a Police Officer in the News" link below:

Malema defends ANCYL’s proposals

http://www.pretorianews.co.za/malema-defends-ancyl

Malema is called a child-soldier because he joined the ANC at age 13 and went to funerals in the city armed with a gun. Interestingly enough, he now has a white bodyguard. LOL.

The proposals refer to the fact that the ANC want to change laws to allow farm workers to let their extended families (including cousins etc) stay on farmers' land for as long as they want, also allowing these people to farm on the farmer's land. In short, it aims to create a legal situation where farmers are basically disowned and have no rights to their own land. In turn, they have to ensure all these people have houses, running water, sewage and electricity.

And as Malema clearly illustrates, working your arse off for everything you've got, doesn't count. He also neglects to mention that the blacks in SA today, and even 200 years ago came from much further North, such as the Congo. Zulus for instance, are descendants of a Nguni from the Congo named 'Zulu'. These are all just excuses to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs that feed the country. But what's new. That's Africa.

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N.E. Wright 11 months ago

Hey Wesman,

Interesting posting.

I never heard of it before. I one of those people with my head stuck in the sand. LOL.

Winnie has been making horrible choices for too many years now.

Love your rants. LOL.

Thank you for sharing this story.

Take Care,

N.E.

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 11 months ago

Hey thanks, N.E. Wright! As ridiculous as was her abusing a police officer for pulling her over going a hundred mph in her limo. . . I wish I'd never even heard of "necklacing." Necklacing was some of the most horrific murder that I wish I'd never have heard of.

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adeaugustus Level 2 Commenter 9 months ago

Welcome to Africa! it happens alot over here, almost every second.once you're famous then obeying the law and respecting the uniform becomes your last priority! am not proud of that incidence, but thanks for sharing this.

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 9 months ago

Thanks for commenting, Sir - I'd absolutely LOVE to get to visit that beautiful place you live in some day!

It's rather common behavior all over, I think - it's certainly not unique to South Africa for someone famous or with political connections to behave as though they are "special."

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