Why Everyone Should Always Pirate Music.
78Pirate Music, and Save The Music Industry.
It's been said that pirating music, sharing files, etc, would destroy the music industry. This is the lie that the music industry and media executives put forth to protect their interests, and believe me, their interests are not YOUR interests, and they are neither the interests of real musicians, or the earnest music seeker. You see, there is no music industry to be destroyed. What "music industry" executives mean when they say, "file sharing and pirating music will destroy the music industry" is that should we pirate music and share files, then we won't buy the dumbed down materialistic pinup boy and girl media whore garbage that they promote exclusively through their buddy Rupert Murdoch's near monopoly on F.M. radio stations nationwide.
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It's Not Music.
Do any of you really consider Lady Gaga, and all of that crap music? If so, then tell me just what it is about that ugly woman and her noise that constitutes music, and I'd also like to know the names of the musicians that she employees.
Still waiting. . . . .
STILL waiting. . . . .
You see, if there are no musicians, then there is no music. If you think that Brittany Spears, Justin Timberlake, or whoever else of those persons are legitimate musicians, then please never speak to me again. You can not be a musician if you are only a singer, being a musician requires musicianship, and the playing of a musical instrument. Singing is great, and everyone loves good singing, but being a pin up boy or girl singing materialistic and lascivious garbage that someone else, one of those mass media brainwashing moguls, wrote for you to sing, makes you nothing more than a media whore, and such individuals are to be regarded with the least amount of respect that can possibly be given to another human being.
Facts
The facts of the matter are these: Honest music is still being made, and there are literally millions of great musicians and singers of songs in the world that the "music industry" will never promote because they do not fit the dumbed down global materialism and idiocy agenda. File sharing and pirating music CAN ONLY help those people, the musicians of integrity, to gain a wider following, and sell actual records, disks, or even fill concert venues. In an effort to promote musical and artistic integrity, I humbly submit to you the following bit of software. With it, you can download mp3s from youtube videos, and mail them to your friends. I sincerely thank you in advance should you participate in the sharing and promotion of musicians with integrity.
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- How to Convert Files to a Different Format with Free Tools
I have covered both web-based and software-based conversion utilities though I prefer the latter option for a couple of reasons - conversion on desktop is often faster, you get to convert your large files offline and, most importantly, you don't. . .
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I'll accept your info as fact, but I refuse to listen to that type of music on ethical grounds, that and that I just don't like the sound of it, and that I'm also unaware of any redeeming virtue found in the lyrics.
I do very much appreciate your comment though! She ain't half as cute as you are!
I agree with your piracy theory helping lesser known bands or bands that aren't connected properly. Rather than have the flavor of the week jammed down your throat, look around and listen to different genres, discover your next favorite artist on your own.
I mostly agree with you on this one Todd. I'm all for pirating music but having been around music for 50 years I can tell you for a fact there's always been shit music around. Gerry and the Pacemakers, Freddy and the Dreamers Ohio Express, I could go on and on. Hell The Monkee's didn't even know how to play instruments (except Mike Nesmith) and they got a TV show, air play and toured. I think when you're growing up you listen to a bit of that shit and eventually go right past it. I think everybody's got the freedom to listen to whatever they want and we have the freedom to ignore it! I do agree that a lot of great talent won't get heard without the internet and piracy. Peace!! Tom
Hey, thanks DJScruffy; yeah, I don't listen to the radio at all any more. I rely on justom, in the comment below yours for new music!
Hey Tom, despite "Daydream Believer" somehow being one of my favourite songs (I can explain that. . . .), check out the video I added as a result of your comment, it's a pretty funny parody.
Okay good sound points about why we should pirate music. Plus I have a friend that is a real musician. Does he have a record contract no simply because he is over 50 and doesn't fit the profile of douche bag singers. Now who can recommend a good file sharing program since Limewire went under?
Damn. I meant to look for it the other day when someone told me about it, Ken, but I think there is one called Vous, or something. Yeah, I was a HUGE limewire fan, lots of great songs there, and worked great for bit torrents too. . . .
Todd that's fuckin' hilarious! If you tell anybody I'll have to kill you but I saw them too. I had free tickets from a radio station. It was worse in person, I've seen a lot of good music but there's some shit in the pile too!
Hey Tom, did you see that SUPER HOT young lady that commented first on this thing? Man. . . . .*sigh*
Yeah, "Daydream Believer" is one of my favourite songs, it reminds me of my Dad, who is very alive and healthy, but that guy (the dad) has ALWAYS listened to the same shit, now, I like that shit; but for some reason that song sticks out in the W.T. Shaw oldies cannon.
I enjoyed this one and agreed with every single line of it. I hate a good portion of modern music, and while I think everyone has the right to listen to garbage if they wish, the industry shouldn't be so hostile to smaller musicians. My two cents.
You're two cents, most favourite of friends, is worth a hundred times it's weight in gold! :-D
How could I miss her!!
Yeah, watch out for Acid Rahne, Tom, she's my favourite female; despite the fact that she's got my burial plot picked out in her Mother's backyard. If you saw the pictures of HER! OMG!
As one of your readers just mentioned, Lady Gaga is an accomplished musician. It's just that her image undermines it, which is a shame.
And you are right, no amount of pirating can kill the music industry.
LOL! I'm getting a bit of flak over the gaga comment, I could edit it, but she's still the flavour of the month, which makes her the ideal target of a music industry that doesn't much care about musicianship, but rather, selling glamour images, and such.
Totally for pirating music! but i am going to disagree with you in the fact that singing isn't music. The voice is an instrument in itself and to go out and dog singers is wrong. however some "popstars" are computer voices with a real body and face doesnt mean they all are.
Hey, that's cool, moderncollector,and you're not the first to protest my idea about that. I base it on the fact that, maybe, the voice takes less training than does learning an instrument. Thanks for commenting!
Hey, Todd, I'm not give you flack! :) It's not unreasonable of you to assume she's not a musician. She LOOKS talentless. That's the impression she gives. She's not promoting music but sluttery.
As for the voice not needing as much training, it's pretty hard to sing. Mariah Carey used to practise for 5 hours a day to get the voice she has. Singing gives the impression it's easy, but it isn't. It takes a lot of hard work.
Wow, I suspect you are a musician yourself trying to carve out a career for yourself. Music is the very essence of subjectivity. Where the music comes from, who writes it and who owns it is irrelevent. If someone connects with music that is a very personal thing and no one has the right to say that person's choice in music is ill advised. Many people love the music of Lady GaGa so your views are a little arrrogant, pretentious and judgemental. This hub will certainly get some comments however so well done there!
I have no idea who Lady Gaga is. I like your post, as always!
As an independent artist myself struggling against the media masses, file sharing is a HUGE tool for my band. As for the fact that people such as Lady Gaga not being musicians, I believe your generalizing the entire pop music industry. Not all of them are complete and total crap. I personally can't stand Lady Gaga, but being a musician isn't just about having loads of talent. It's about being an artist and expressing who you are. She does have a very powerful voice (yes it is covered up by crap) and she expresses her self how she pleases and conveys her emotions through that (even if it is crap). Music is what you, as the listener, make it. Some people hear bands such as the beatles and say "this changed my life" other's say "wow shoot me so I don't have to hear this anymore". It is all a matter of opinion. Great hub!
Hey Claire, thanks! That's definitely all she's selling, perhaps her ideas are that when she gets older and less slutty she'll sell music?
There will come a day when I have a vid recorder and what all I need to shoot videos, and upload them, then you'll plug your ears and say, "well, he tried!"
hahahaha. I sing for myself all the time, and sometimes for five hours at a time!
Malcom Cox, I'm more of a penniless hub artists than a penniless musician; but I do sometimes play music.
Here's the thing, if promoting slutty materialism makes one a musician, then I don't want to hear it, and if speaking out about it makes me arrogant, then please call me "arrogant."
Hey Acochran89,best of luck to you and your band! But don't you think that our "music industry" favours. .. .crap over substance?
Hey, Micky Dee; you ain't missing not one single thing that you'd ever want to hear! I'd be willing to bet that I could spend a lot of quality time with your music collection1
lol I won't disagree with that at all. But even then it is still a matter of opinion to the listeners. The industry finds whatever fad artist that they can sell that week, however, the ARE selling. So obviously people are interested in whatever crap the industry pros throw at them. Either way, music is getting to the masses like it should be, whether it is through selling cd's, pirating, or going to the local bar to see a band. Music is being spread, and as long as that happens everyone's creative voice can be heard (even the awkward looking, auto-tuned, divas such as gaga or the abomination that is kesha).
I think I'll just be thankful that I don't know who "kesha" is!
I'm with Mic' I don't know jack about ga ga and bet that is a good thing. You set me back to things like the Partridge Family, the notorious Milli Vanilli all fakes, and a friend of mine in town, was at his house, kids glued to Nickelodeon watching some voice over kid band and I asked him if this crap was still going on. Yep and we talked about it all the way to the bar for brew and pool games and on the weekends local talent that if they wrote their own stuff could be great. One of them could be James Taylor if you just listened as he mimics him to a T, no pun intended. I got a ton of stuff off lime wire, didn't know they got shut down, I'd heard it before but tried it and it was still running, now I need a replacement, but I'll try it before I delete the program as I was running it on the 3 years back version. Dang! Lime Wire was soooo easy., 50
Hey 50 Caliber, I downloaded a free program called "U Torrent" the other day, and it's something that might interest you, I've not used it much yet, but it's got a toolbar option for mozilla, with search features and such; but I'm guessing from the name that it's all torrents; which is fine with me, they only take longer, most of the time, to complete a download with, and then you've no longer any need for the torrent file when you have completed the download. Maybe I'll post a hub about it after I've used it more.
I just fired up lime wire and it says the court said for them to cease and desist from unauthorized down load of or use of the product, I jumped the screen and did a song search got it downloaded in 86 seconds and shut down the program, so it still works as I thought. I've got version 4.10. I didn't think that they could shut down 50 million users with 50 million servers, all different with the software still running on home computers everywhere it for now is an unenforceable law best I can tell, Dusty
Hey, now that I can deal with! I might download it again!
Let me know if your interested in the 4.10 as I went back to it due to the new version not so friendly. I can send the jack in the box file (exe) it worked from my old lap top to this one and installed the program. There are plenty of folks sharing still looks to me. I'm not leaving it run 24/7 though as I read that a successful court case with multi-million dollar judgment was won against a user with empty pockets. I'm of the understanding a law can only be a law if it is enforceable, I can't see this one in that light, peace Dusty
Hey thanks, I might hit you up on that. In light of that information, I might be even more inclined to run it. They can't get blood from a turnip!
If musicians came up with music worth 'buying' maybe less people would pirate. Most of it is not worth the huge sums companies ask for the music.
Well, that's what I'm talking about here, BobbiRant, there is great music out there; but our media does not promote that music, it promotes materialistic garbage, and so, you never get introduced to the good musicians.
Intersting theory! Have you seen the movie Pirate Radio with Philip Seymor Hoffman?
I have never heard of Kaufman, Texas. Are you in the Panhandle?
Hey Truckstop Sally! I've never seen that film, and Kaufman is about 35-40 miles South East of Dallas, so it's not in the panehandle, but I panhandle just the same!
Some of the best musicians I've ever learned about didn't come from watching MTV; they came from recommendations from my friends. They would copy tapes for me. Then when I became a fan, I would often buy their new stuff.
Exactly, same experience here, Willie; someone would loan me a tape, and I'd copy it and wonder, "why the hell doesn't this stuff get played on the radio?"
The answer is that record and radio execs, media moguls, etc; have a different agenda. Their agenda isn't music, it's social programming that they seek to accomplish.
Mmmmm, I'd love to be able to pirate music, but the random crackdowns and my own cricket sense would deeply deter me. So I just rely on youtube when i get really desperate. BTW, I'm very frustrated by the idea that some songs can not be individually purchased but must instead be purchased with the whole cd. Gag.
Hey, but you can download youtube videos, and convert them to Mp3s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's magic, and then you can send those mp3s to your friends in e mails, and that way you can always have them in your sent folder, so you can re download them from your newer computer, your other computer, and your mother's computer. . . .!!!!
That sounds very tempting. I might have to try that one. So exciting! :)
I get a great deal of satisfaction from breaking idiotic laws. I mean that most seriously too.
Music is art. It is one of the most beautiful creations of the human race. When music starts being created for the purpose of making money, and not just for the sake of its own existence, it ceases to be art.
Be loud and proud with that, Anonymous, I agree with you.
Anything I want I can see on "You Tube", so I dont need to download, but prior to this, I just used to use fileshare. It shouldnt be a problem.
Hey Christopher, but do you have a fiber optic connect?
Where I am, I've dsl, but there are lots of wealthy WASP around here, and they hog my bandwidth, so videos on the tubes. . .can get patchy, and won't buffer well at certain times of day. But if I use a flash video downloader, and then a flash to mp3 file converter, I've got my own sharing system, and I can upload files to e mail, and annoy the living hell out of my friends. . . .cause I think that I know exactly what music they should be listening to, of course.
The entertainment industry is still pretty much an organ grinder and his dancing monkey. The only real difference is that the monkey can now wear a meat suit to get praises and pennies from millions of people who fill the monkey's tin cup....most of which are between the ages of 13 and 25.
Years ago, I saw the Stones in concert. The music was blaring in the stadium and I couldn't make out any of the lyrics. I could see Keith Richards swaying like a dead man glued to the floor and Mick Jagger hopping around like the spirit of Richard Simmons had taken over his body.
I had gone to hear the Stones and finally got enough of a contact buzz from the pot smoke to enjoy the last few songs. I realized that I went there to SEE the Rolling Stones. I was caught up in the fame flow.
Anyhow...my point is: Great music is priceless. I still listen to the Stones once in a while. I stopped worshiping entertainers. I will however...toss a penny in their cup...if I really, really like the music.
Awesome Comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting point of view. I do have a couple of points to add though:
1) When people don't buy the music of certain artists and download it instead the record companies stop promoting those artists. They only promote the artists that are selling records. If the only people who are buying records are middle-aged then you end up with superstar, "Norah Jones".
2) If artists can't get their records sold they try to get money in other ways. Which means they "sell out". That's why you couldn't get away from "Holiday" by Vampire Weekend all last December. They still have to make money and get new fans to come to their concerts.
Hey OrlandoC, Norah Jones is super talented; but let me ask you a question, okay? Did radio play influence the huge amounts of money that the Grateful Dead made?
You're missing my point. I'm not saying you can't make money from other means. I'm saying a record company is only going to promote those artists who are making money for them.
If young, new, interesting bands aren't making the record companies any money then they will stop investing to promote them.
When the companies don't invest in promoting new, interesting artists and bands you get nothing but Lady Gaga and the Black Eyed Peas on the radio becasue that's what sells.
Most people are just fine with not hearing their favorite band on the radio. But as I said, you might hear them in a commercial instead.
Okay, that's good business sense; of course.
BUT, let me ask you a question: Do you believe the "dumbing down of America" phenomenon just happened out of. . . .nowhere? bad luck?
Although I completely agree with your stance on pirating music for the sake of accessibility and fostering openness and exposure to new artists, I find the argument on what constitutes "good music" shortsighted and threadbare. The merits of musicianship is entirely subjective, and I think people have such a hard time accepting pop artists as true musicians more because of what they symbolize (the corporate music machine), than the actual "songs" they produce. There is a distinction there that needs to be recognized.
Frostwire is good .I too ,do not care for Lady Caca.
Ha! If she's so "talented," then why does she look and act like a brainless whore??
Research will show you , her, and all Rap and funked up music are mainly purchased by 18 yrs old and younger.
Oh yeah definitely, when I was young I'd get caught up in the same sorts of things. Also, when I was 18-25, I bought music constantly. I still enjoy music just as much, but I don't think I listen to it as much, and I definitely don't get into new music very often.
Just because Gaga sings and wrote some of her songs before she made it, does not make her listenable or talented. My 10 year old nephew writes songs, and there are more sophisticated than Gagas-does this make him worthy of being a star. Compare Gaga to Rod Steward, Cat Stevens, David Bowie, Lou Reed, Blind FAith, Steve Windwood, BadFinger, The BEatles.
Today compare hr to Grant lee Phillips, Mother Hips, Black Crowes.
it happens to be fact that Gaga does not write all the song that put her on the map. That is to say she is not a mult-pronged musician,a stranger, and producer. H r material land so called musicianship falls under is right along with the presidingg trend of nothingness.
You've got that right, Ben "Presiding trend of nothingness" I like that one; well, you know what I mean.
I pirate music - downloaded whole albums and discovered new bands through piracy. I spend my money on films (blu-ray/dvd), academic journals, phone bills, live concerts, and clothes (I like feeling dappered) so I it's really where my priorities are. I do pirate movies and if I REALLY like the movie then I'll buy it. Unfortunately, it's not the same for music. As with music, my range of artists is limited, but not so much the genres. I like to "soak" myself into two or three extraordinary artists from various genres and I don't like the feeling of spending $10-12 on an album I don't completely like; I have to like every single track in order to purchase it (I recently bought the "True Grit" soundtrack through iTunes, but even then I regret that decision). Yea, call me an asshole/douchebag for my reasons on not purchasing music . . . but movies, that's a different story.
I pretty much hate corporate music - and most Hollywood films. I totally relate to people not wanting to buy whole albums.
I haven't downloaded any music in a while -but I might give frostwire a go at some point. I just haven't since Limewire died.
"If you think that Brittany Spears, Justin Timberlake, or whoever else of those persons are legitimate musicians, then please never speak to me again."
It's nice to see that you have anointed yourself judge and jury...
It's nicer still that I don't have to bother to listen to vacuous bullshit performed by whores that didn't even create that bullshit.
This hub MUST be written to be voted 'funny'.
Read my hub, "How To Download Online Music - No Muss, No Fuss, No Scruples"
Illegally downloading music hurts EVERY RECORDING ARTIST, because it perpetuates and kills the desire for creation of new, good music... why write the song, if no one is going to buy it? Would you build a 3 story mansion and freakin' sit there to watch every Tom, Dick and Harry slowly steal a brick here a 2x4 there? I don't think so.
As a fellow musician, I believe people who pirate music are lowdown thieves, and for you to encourage thievery of the possessions (CDs, DVDs and downloads) that help support our business is insanity. I would guess that you play live for free as well. Man, wake up and smell the coffee!
You're certainly entitled to your opinion - but playing LIVE is what makes money for a working musician, and if you perform well live - then people will buy your music, and be happy to do so.
My concern is the vacuous and pathetic crap that our msm promotes over creative and skilled music by hard working musicians who may or may not be "pretty."
My concern is always that mediocrity is what is taught. I watched some Emenem or m and m, or whatever the hell that person is called just two nights ago, and I almost threw up.
I agree with everything in your comment... including the point of playing live - playing live is the ONLY way any musician is going to sell enough CDs to make a living. Today's music IS awful, and dumbing down our kids at an alarming rate. It's heartbreaking to realize our younger generation actually believes this junk is music - We both agree on that.
We disagree on only one point: "File sharing" a.k.a. stealing isn't the answer. I won't take any more of your time.
Hey - fair enough on that, but you don't take any of my time, I enjoy this site, and the conversations that come out of it.
Yes, I pirate music, but I don't think using an emotional response calling artists whores is going to have anyone take you seriously.
Pirating music hurts the managers, not their bands. If they bands split up over pirating music, then they weren't in the business to do what they truly loved and boo hoo for them, life is about doing what you love.
So you think the word "artist" fits Brit Spears better than "whore?"
Todd,
Interesting hub; and, even more interesting comments. As a non-musician, I can only add this opinion.
There are two types of musicians: Those I like to hear and those I like to watch. Rarely do I run into a musician who is both.
I will have to think about my stance on pirating music. I have heard some people state that most artists make money through appearances, not the sale of songs in any format. Sort of like the way movie theater's make money on concessions and break even on films.
RIGHT!!!!
Now, if an artist can sell something directly - sort of like an ebook kindle download on amazon.com - then hey, they make good money from that because there is no real material involved - no production of cds, no transportation, warehousing, etc, etc, etc.
.....but if I then don't share that which I downloaded with someone else - say, by an email attachment, or something, how then will anyone else know whether or not they'd like it too?
It's a complicated subject.
I don't know if I'm jumping in too late, but I think this hub speaks some truth. The group OFWGKTA used blogs and online marketing to promote their music. They are just a group of kids from LA that were making music (and for the record, I think they are disgusting). All of their music was available for free and people loved it. Then, their leader, Tyler the Creator, got signed for an album and their following suffered because of this. No one wanted to buy the album because they were used to getting it for free. Sales went up in their T-Shirts and other ways they make money, so this simply proves that many people don't want to pay for music anymore becuase they don't have to. I also think the evolution from records to tapes to cds to mp3s had a significant effect on album sales (but now I'm getting off topic). Great hub, Wes! Keep up the great work.
It's never too late!!!!!!!!! Thank you Brittany!!!!
That's an interesting story - I'd not heard of those folks!
It really is a bother to buy hard copy of music - why bother? They way these corporations work is - as soon as everyone owns a tape, they create cds so you have to re buy everything.
Right now with everything available in a digital file - it's interesting, don't know what to think will be the next big thing.
I still buy records (LPs) 'cause I'm a collector, but as for new music, yeah, there is no point in buying it.
I've got my entire cd collection ripped to my computer - I don't much listen to music from radio anymore - just youtube and stuff on my computer!
Years ago when limewire was up - I downloaded lots of good stuff there too.
If I had the money - I'd really prefer to buy a disc of the musicians that I like - I'm proud to support them, but when it comes to "too short" and the exactly three rap songs of his that I might listen to....tough luck, I'm pirating that stuff, and I'd never buy it!
I totally agree. mp3s are just so disposable these days. That's why I only buy vinyl and some mp3s to support an artist I like. I did limewire for a little while but file-sharing websites are much safer and will not get you in any legal trouble.
total idiots and thieves... musicians have families also... and one day you'll have to pay for your behavior... when your kids grow up and steal something that you think is precious... and they look at you and say, what's the difference in me taking this and you taking music when I was growing up... we will live through it until we find away to stop you from stealing... then it's gonna be pay back time...lol... I can wait...
It's amazing how someone can read something and either retains so precious little, or remain purposefully ignorant.
Why don't you suck on some lady gag uh, and tell me how that tastes?
jeanine is right... stealing cannot be condoned in a civil society, and you, a musician yourself, calling for people to do just that will influence your kids to do the same. Maybe your kids will read this incredible hub one day and "file share" = steal YOUR songs.
Admit it, you blew this one!
Nope!
In fact - TONS of musicians would LOVE for their music files to be shared...do you know why this is?
Don't worry - I'll tell you!
It's because mainstream media is utter garbage - and is full of "lady gag uh" - and that is NOT music.
Honest musicians make money from performances - and without their music being distributed and heard - nobody sees those performances.
So if the utterly and totally corrupt msm isn't promoting you, you'r only hope is that someone else is.
I have been pirating music since I was 10. Saturday nights I would sit with my finger on the tape record button while listing to the radio, ready to make my cool tape for the week. No one seemed to bothered when I did that. I don't see why they are so bothered now.
....its just the corporate whore bands and the corporations...government by corporation was always a sick idea.
Pirate On Adam!
dominiqueus8 16 months ago
Lady Gaga is actually an extremely talented musician. She writes all of her own music, and has been composing piano pieces since a very young age. She was accepted to NYU Tisch at the age of 17 and began college before even graduating high school; to do this at NYU is very rare and only a small number of people have been accepted early. This was before she was Lady Gaga, so she was accepted on pure talent, not fame. She is also very good at dancing, and her vocals are outstanding. Try listening to some of her live performances where she plays her accompaniment on the piano.