The Gibson J - 160E John Lennon Guitar.

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By Wesman Todd Shaw

John Lennon

Regardless of who you are, there is little doubt that if you are an adult and living in the Western World, then you most certainly know who John Lennon was. I think that it's safe enough to say that the majority of the persons who do know who John Lennon was at least are somewhat fond of maybe one song or another that he was a part of - even if you don't particularly like John Lennon, or the type of music that he'd created at all.

Most people who know who John Lennon was, however, are clear fans on one level or another - anywhere from rabid to casual. In any case, no one can really doubt that John Lennon left his mark not just on America, but on the entire world.

I, personally, definitely count myself as a fan of the music of both Lennon and McCartney, and John Lennon's solo work. I'm not the largest fan in the world, but then again there have been times where I just don't know what I would have been doing were I NOT enjoying the cleverness, the singing, and the experimental and sometimes simple music that the man had created. Though it's clear that John Lennon wasn't a fabulous guitarist - he certainly could play the guitar, and often did so while singing, or simply while backing up whichever Beatle was doing the singing for a particular tune. Often times John Lennon did this on one of his Gibson acoustic guitars, and now Gibson has honored his contribution not only to popular music, but to their own success with two different models of Gibson John Lennon Guitar.

Both George Harrison and John Lennon Bought Gibson J 160E Acoustic/Electric Guitars.

The Gibson J 160E

Now it's important to note here that the Gibson J - 160E existed before John Lennon had one, but because of Lennon's fame and use of the instrument, the Gibson J - 160E became so closely associated with not just John Lennon, but The Beatles as a group, that it's very fair that this guitar is now presented to the public with not one, not two, but three models with John Lennon's name on them.

Originally, the Gibson J - 160E was not such a fine instrument, in fact, the guitar was mostly plywood, and was ladder braced instead of X braced, as nearly all fine acoustic guitars are. The J - 160E was only Gibson's second attempt at making an acoustic electric guitar, and it featured an uncovered P90 pickup, and the electronics that go along with it.

One thing you can certainly be certain of - despite whatever the collectors inflated value is of an original Gibson J - 160E, the modern versions of those guitars are so vastly superior that the originals can't hold a candle to them so far as being a quality instrument is concerned.

An Original Gibson J - 160E

The 70th Anniversary John Lennon J-160E VS

The Gibson J 160 IMAGINE or "Peace" Guitar.

The Gibson J - 160E John Lennon Museum Guitar

The Gibson J 160 E John Lennon Models

Now, I love the music of John Lennon - and I'm proud that Brian Epstein, the manager of The Beatles had decided to spend his own money to purchase these guitars for both John Lennon and for George Harrison - but I have to plainly state here - having John Lennon's name on a guitar in no way makes a guitar any better than another one. In fact - despite my appreciation for the Gibson Guitar company - it's my opinion that these guitars, as a player's instrument, are grossly over priced.

When it's all said and done - these guitars might make great collectors guitars - but they have laminated spruce tops - and for five hundred bucks, I can find you a better brand new model guitar that would have a SOLID spruce top on it, which in and of itself ALWAYS makes a guitar a superior instrument to ANY guitar with a laminated top on it - despite the signature series, and the manufacturer.

These newer Gibson models of the J - 160e with Lennon's name on them are surely better than the originals - but they still feature what Gibson is touting as something good - "traditional ladder bracing." It's just a plain fact that ladder bracing is far and away inferior a design for guitar tonality than is X bracing - which is what great acoustic guitars will always have with only a very few exceptions.

Now, keep in mind here that the Gibson J - 160E was one of the very first acoustic/electric guitars ever in production by anyone and anywhere - but the first clue that anyone should have, besides the laminated top sound board, is the knobs for the electronics being on the top - that's a sure sign that this guitar isn't going to be much good for playing unless it's plugged in. Why? Because the very sound of an acoustic guitar comes from the vibrations of the top, and having knobs on it means that there are restrictions to the vibrations of the sound board.

Most often when someone pays for a dreadnought acoustic/electric guitar - they intend to play it not just plugged in to an amp, but also wherever they may be. If you live in an apartment, it's quite natural that you can't play plugged in all the time - but this guitar would provide insufficient volume for playing unless it was plugged in, and this is because of the laminated top, the ladder bracing, and then the electronics placed into the top of the guitar. Modern designs for acoustic/electrics feature electronics in the less critical sides of the guitar.

The seventieth anniversary model - the cheapest guitar of these three John Lennon J - 160e guitars is priced at $ 4, 728.00 dollars.

Next up - the "peace model" which is in white, as Lennon's guitar was after he'd stripped off the finish during his and that Jap woman's "bed in." - it's priced at a ridiculous $10,748.00

Most absurd of all, the J - 160e Museum - which imitates the altered yet again - exact guitar that John Lennon owned, in the state that it is in now in a museum -for a grotesquely over priced $15,048.00

These guitars are decent guitars - and the video at bottom shows how a new one today sounds pretty much exactly how Lennon and Harrison's guitars sounded on the early Beatle's recordings. It sounds fine - but these guitars are so over priced that I'd never in a million years recommend one to anyone. For the money that these things cost - there are hundreds of models of superior instruments that you could purchase anywhere from two to five of.

This Video is Mis titled - The Guitar Here is the J - 160e Museum.

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acc12 Level 3 Commenter 7 months ago

What an awesome photo of John Lennon receiving his guitar! Thanks for presenting detailed info on the instrument and sharing your expertise. Voted up!

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CJStone Level 5 Commenter 7 months ago

I'd definitely consider myself a fan of John Lennon's music. "Working Class Hero" is a great song, as are many others. Not a guitar player though (or only a little about 30 years ago). Just thought I'd pop over and say hello. A good and honest review.

Patricia Shaw 7 months ago

I very much enjoyed reading this hub; thank you for posting. Very interesting to we Beatles fans!

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justom Level 4 Commenter 7 months ago

Good hub Todd, I don't need to tell you how I feel about this band (especially John). This wasn't the only guitar he played, maybe you could do another hub!

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FloraBreenRobison 7 months ago

I'm a big fan of The Beatles and Lennon's solo work. Actually , I enjoy most of The Beatles in their post group music, with the exception of The Wings. I am not a fan of The Wings.

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 7 months ago

Thanks acc12!! Yeah - I still like the Beatles quite a lot, it's just that at this stage in my life - I've heard all of their music so many times that I can only really enjoy it every once in a while - when it is playing as a total surprise.

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 7 months ago

Thank you very much CJStone!!!!! I think this is about the only negative product review of an acoustic guitar that I've ever done.

I'm not so dissapointed with these guitars as I am disgusted with the prices they want for them.

These guitars aren't much more than five hundred dollar instruments, but you can see the power of John's name combined with lots of music history, and of course, Gibson's proud name as well.

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 7 months ago

Thanks Mom!!

Hey Tom, yeah - at some point I'll.....actually, with guitars and music, I'll absolutely never run out of things to write about on those subjects!

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 7 months ago

Hey Flora!!!

You know - I really do like some Wings tunes - Paul was just so goofy, but still creative.

That "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" thing was just so wild, and very Beatlesesque in my opinion. I can sing along with it, even though it makes no sense at all!

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Sueswan Level 8 Commenter 6 months ago

Great hub Wes!

Voted up and awesome.

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 6 months ago

Thanks Sue Swan!!!

Dusty 50 caliber 6 months ago

Wesman, great review of a Gibson J160E. I have in the past fooled with a non Beatles model. They sound like shit unplugged and Plugged up I'd say any solid body with good pick ups would be a better way to spend ones money.

I can't deny that a few of Lennon's tunes were memorable and I can play them from memory as the chord-age is simple and the only ones you could accuse and convict as a guitarist of note worthy ability woulds be George and Ringo was a great drummer. John was as cynical as one gets, a trait I found amusing when he was being interviewed or just asked a question in passing from a reporter he was quick witted and being a cynic my self when asked questions I didn't want to answer, found him amusing, but little Marky Chapman didn't think so, so he shot the commy in the back. I feel like Lennon was like Jane Fonda and have to separate his politics from his music.

Voted up, useful awesome and interesting, a good review of a over priced guitar that plays like my $7.50 Sears Silver Tone out of the catalog in 1959 and matched with plywood tops laminated with poor wood that was airbrushed with paint for appearance. I remember picking up my first time ever "good" guitar at a store called Music City in Tucson and it was a mind blower, all the stuff I had learned that sounded like crap took on new wings with a great sound board, it does make a difference, dust

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Wesman Todd Shaw Hub Author 6 months ago

Thanks Dusty!!!

Did you ever see Chris Anton's hub about John Lennon?

I'd never seen Chris's pov before - but of course JL was no saint!

I agree - I can like people for different things - I don't have to agree with everything that someone does, and still like their music or their wit!

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